[450] 450 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 34
Alan Fletcher
proaudio5 at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 22 01:44:44 EDT 2009
When are you guys going to head to Pub&Grub? I'm bringing the YL and she doesn't really wanna hang out at the 'fest all day. I'm figuring we'll do about an hour or maybe a little more and then head to Sam's with the crew. Anybody got an HT so I can find y'all once we get there?
de N1UJU
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> 1. Re: Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of
> Amateur Radio Question Pools (Vinnie Grosso)
> 2. Re: Mobile loop install pics (n1ujs at toast.net)
> 3. Re: Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of
> Amateur Radio Question Pools (djmay at comcast.net)
> 4. Station picture (David McKenzie)
> 5. Re: Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size
> ofAmateur Radio Question Pools (Vinnie Grosso)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:39:23 -0400
> From: "Vinnie Grosso" <vinnie at vinnievision.com>
> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size
> of Amateur Radio Question Pools
> To: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
> Message-ID: <49C3D4CB.397.169664F at vinnie.vinnievision.com>
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> so this opens the door for the NCVEC to add more questions, if they like. And
> to open a new debate like the "code-- no-code" debate. All of it the wrong
> thing for Ham radio. I think the guy that proposed it, like Some folks, have a
> superiority complex. This is why 11 meters remains so popular. Also what
> *everyone* seems to forget, is that air waves are "public" and jump across
> boundaries without stopping.
>
> just my 2 cents
>
> On 20 Mar 2009 at 15:18, djmay at comcast.net wrote:
>
> >
> > Food for thought...
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded Message -----
> > From: "ARRL Web site" <memberlist at www.arrl.org>
> > To: djmay at comcast.net
> > Cc: Subscribed ARRL Members:;
> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:32:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> > Eastern
> > Subject: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur
> > Radio
> > Question Pools
> >
> > SB QST @ ARL $ARLB016
> > ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio
> > Question Pools
> >
> > ZCZC AG16
> > QST de W1AW
> > ARRL Bulletin 16 ARLB016
> > From ARRL Headquarters
> > Newington CT March 20, 2009
> > To all radio amateurs
> >
> > SB QST ARL ARLB016
> > ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio
> > Question Pools
> >
> > In April 2008, Michael Mancuso, KI4NGN, of Raleigh, North
> > Carolina,
> > filed a petition with the FCC, seeking to increase the size of
> > the
> > question pools that make up the Amateur Radio licensing exams.
> > Mancuso sought to increase the question pool from 10 times the
> > number of questions on an exam to 50 times more questions. On
> > March
> > 19, 2009, the Commission notified Mancuso that it was denying
> > his
> > petition.
> >
> > In his 2008 petition, Mancuso claimed that the current question
> > pool
> > is too easy to memorize and "that there has been a significant
> > increase in the number of Amateur Radio operators receiving
> > their
> > licenses over at least the last decade or more who do not appear
> > to
> > possess the knowledge indicated by the class of license that
> > they
> > have received. Most discussion about this topic, both on the air
> > and
> > on Internet forums, generally refers to these widespread
> > observations as the 'dumbing down' of Amateur Radio. It has
> > been
> > widely assumed that the cause of this observed situation is
> > based
> > upon the subject material addressed by the license
> > examinations,
> > that the material requirements specified for the examinations
> > does
> > [sic] not meet some minimum level of knowledge expected by some
> > or
> > many in the Amateur Radio community."
> >
> > The FCC pointed out to Mancuso that ea
>
>
> Vincent Grosso
> Vontage and Cell 917-546-6661
> The Best Way to Predict the Future is to Invent it
> Carl Mangold
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:26:19 -0400
> From: "n1ujs at toast.net" <n1ujs at toast.net>
> Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop install pics
> To: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
> Message-ID: <dbfcb75fdc8545e0a947427eec122178.N1UJS at TOAST.NET>
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>
> No problem....measure the space you DO have from roof to garage door, and mount it at that
> height! Simple!!!
>
>
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> >From : Charles Woodside[mailto:n1muq at optonline.net]
> Sent : 3/20/2009 12:36:09 AM
> To : 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
> Cc :
> Subject : RE: Re: [450] Mobile loop install pics
>
>
> Bob
> It won't happen anytime soon for the car, I need to
> get in and out of the garage with my vehicle. I do plan on ordering the stacked
> loops soon though. Just give me a little time. Before you know it I will be
> horizontal....in the good sense. Charlie N1MUQ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Bob
> To: 144.450 Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:23
> PM
> Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop install
> pics
>
>
> So......make a pair for you and YOUR honey
> then......
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Charles
> Woodside
> To: 144.450 Mailing List
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:59
> PM
> Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop install
> pics
>
>
> So cute His & Her Loops... I'm
> jealous..Charlie N1MUQ
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:38:25 +0000 (UTC)
> From: djmay at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size
> of Amateur Radio Question Pools
> To: vinnie at vinnievision.com, "144.450 Mailing List"
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> It's interesting this just came out today, Vinnie, as I just started putting my nose to the grindstone for my general about 4 days ago.? It seems like maybe you should get it while you can, before something changes.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vinnie Grosso" <vinnie at vinnievision.com>
> To: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:39:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio Question Pools
>
> so this opens the door for the NCVEC to add more questions, if they like. And
> to open a new debate like the "code-- ?no-code" debate. All of it the wrong
> thing for Ham radio. ?I think the guy that proposed it, like Some folks, have a
> superiority complex. This is why 11 meters remains so popular. ?Also what
> *everyone* seems to forget, is that air waves are "public" and jump across
> boundaries without stopping.
>
> just my 2 cents
>
> On 20 Mar 2009 at 15:18, djmay at comcast.net wrote:
>
> >
> > ? ? Food for thought...
> > ? ?
> > ? ?
> > ? ? ----- Forwarded Message -----
> > ? ? From: "ARRL Web site" <memberlist at www.arrl.org>
> > ? ? To: djmay at comcast.net
> > ? ? Cc: Subscribed ARRL Members:;
> > ? ? Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:32:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> > Eastern
> > ? ? Subject: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur
> > Radio
> > ? ? Question Pools
> > ? ?
> > ? ? SB QST @ ARL $ARLB016
> > ? ? ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio
> > ? ? Question Pools
> > ? ?
> > ? ? ZCZC AG16
> > ? ? QST de W1AW
> > ? ? ARRL Bulletin 16 ARLB016
> > ? ? From ARRL Headquarters
> > ? ? Newington CT March 20, 2009
> > ? ? To all radio amateurs
> > ? ?
> > ? ? SB QST ARL ARLB016
> > ? ? ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio
> > ? ? Question Pools
> > ? ?
> > ? ? In April 2008, Michael Mancuso, KI4NGN, of Raleigh, North
> > Carolina,
> > ? ? filed a petition with the FCC, seeking to increase the size of
> > the
> > ? ? question pools that make up the Amateur Radio licensing exams.
> > ? ? Mancuso sought to increase the question pool from 10 times the
> > ? ? number of questions on an exam to 50 times more questions. On
> > March
> > ? ? 19, 2009, the Commission notified Mancuso that it was denying
> > his
> > ? ? petition.
> > ? ?
> > ? ? In his 2008 petition, Mancuso claimed that the current question
> > pool
> > ? ? is too easy to memorize and "that there has been a significant
> > ? ? increase in the number of Amateur Radio operators receiving
> > their
> > ? ? licenses over at least the last decade or more who do not appear
> > to
> > ? ? possess the knowledge indicated by the class of license that
> > they
> > ? ? have received. Most discussion about this topic, both on the air
> > and
> > ? ? on Internet forums, generally refers to these widespread
> > ? ? observations as the 'dumbing down' of Amateur Radio. It has
> > been
> > ? ? widely assumed that the cause of this observed situation is
> > based
> > ? ? upon the subject material addressed by the license
> > examinations,
> > ? ? that the material requirements specified for the examinations
> > does
> > ? ? [sic] not meet some minimum level of knowledge expected by some
> > or
> > ? ? many in the Amateur Radio community."
> > ? ?
> > ? ? The FCC pointed out to Mancuso that ea
>
>
> Vincent Grosso
> Vontage and Cell 917-546-6661
> The Best Way to Predict the Future is to Invent it
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> From: David McKenzie <kb1fsy at vhfwiki.com>
> Subject: [450] Station picture
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> Evolving....
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> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:16:41 +0000
> From: "Vinnie Grosso" <vinnie at vinnievision.com>
> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size
> ofAmateur Radio Question Pools
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> Probably nothing will change for a while. I'm actually memorizing my way to Extra -- just like the man says :). Vinnie
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: djmay at comcast.net
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:38:25
> To: <vinnie at vinnievision.com>; 144.450 Mailing List<450 at lists.vhfwiki.com>
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