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When are you guys going to head to Pub&Grub? I'm bringing the YL and she doesn't really wanna hang out at the 'fest all day. I'm figuring we'll do about an hour or maybe a little more and then head to Sam's with the crew. Anybody got an HT so I can find y'all once we get there?<br><br>de N1UJU<br><br>> From: 450-request@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> Subject: 450 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 34<br>> To: 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:00:02 -0400<br>> <br>> Send 450 mailing list submissions to<br>> 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> 450-request@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> 450-owner@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of 450 digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Re: Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of<br>> Amateur Radio Question Pools (Vinnie Grosso)<br>> 2. Re: Mobile loop install pics (n1ujs@toast.net)<br>> 3. Re: Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of<br>> Amateur Radio Question Pools (djmay@comcast.net)<br>> 4. Station picture (David McKenzie)<br>> 5. Re: Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size<br>> ofAmateur Radio Question Pools (Vinnie Grosso)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:39:23 -0400<br>> From: "Vinnie Grosso" <vinnie@vinnievision.com><br>> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size<br>> of Amateur Radio Question Pools<br>> To: 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> Message-ID: <49C3D4CB.397.169664F@vinnie.vinnievision.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<br>> <br>> so this opens the door for the NCVEC to add more questions, if they like. And <br>> to open a new debate like the "code-- no-code" debate. All of it the wrong <br>> thing for Ham radio. I think the guy that proposed it, like Some folks, have a <br>> superiority complex. This is why 11 meters remains so popular. Also what <br>> *everyone* seems to forget, is that air waves are "public" and jump across <br>> boundaries without stopping.<br>> <br>> just my 2 cents<br>> <br>> On 20 Mar 2009 at 15:18, djmay@comcast.net wrote:<br>> <br>> > <br>> > Food for thought...<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ----- Forwarded Message -----<br>> > From: "ARRL Web site" <memberlist@www.arrl.org><br>> > To: djmay@comcast.net<br>> > Cc: Subscribed ARRL Members:;<br>> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:32:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada<br>> > Eastern<br>> > Subject: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur<br>> > Radio <br>> > Question Pools<br>> > <br>> > SB QST @ ARL $ARLB016<br>> > ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio<br>> > Question Pools<br>> > <br>> > ZCZC AG16<br>> > QST de W1AW <br>> > ARRL Bulletin 16 ARLB016<br>> > >From ARRL Headquarters <br>> > Newington CT March 20, 2009<br>> > To all radio amateurs <br>> > <br>> > SB QST ARL ARLB016<br>> > ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio<br>> > Question Pools<br>> > <br>> > In April 2008, Michael Mancuso, KI4NGN, of Raleigh, North<br>> > Carolina,<br>> > filed a petition with the FCC, seeking to increase the size of<br>> > the<br>> > question pools that make up the Amateur Radio licensing exams.<br>> > Mancuso sought to increase the question pool from 10 times the<br>> > number of questions on an exam to 50 times more questions. On<br>> > March<br>> > 19, 2009, the Commission notified Mancuso that it was denying<br>> > his<br>> > petition.<br>> > <br>> > In his 2008 petition, Mancuso claimed that the current question<br>> > pool<br>> > is too easy to memorize and "that there has been a significant<br>> > increase in the number of Amateur Radio operators receiving<br>> > their<br>> > licenses over at least the last decade or more who do not appear<br>> > to<br>> > possess the knowledge indicated by the class of license that<br>> > they<br>> > have received. Most discussion about this topic, both on the air<br>> > and<br>> > on Internet forums, generally refers to these widespread<br>> > observations as the 'dumbing down' of Amateur Radio. It has<br>> > been<br>> > widely assumed that the cause of this observed situation is<br>> > based<br>> > upon the subject material addressed by the license<br>> > examinations,<br>> > that the material requirements specified for the examinations<br>> > does<br>> > [sic] not meet some minimum level of knowledge expected by some<br>> > or<br>> > many in the Amateur Radio community."<br>> > <br>> > The FCC pointed out to Mancuso that ea<br>> <br>> <br>> Vincent Grosso<br>> Vontage and Cell 917-546-6661<br>> The Best Way to Predict the Future is to Invent it<br>> Carl Mangold<br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:26:19 -0400<br>> From: "n1ujs@toast.net" <n1ujs@toast.net><br>> Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop install pics<br>> To: 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> Message-ID: <dbfcb75fdc8545e0a947427eec122178.N1UJS@TOAST.NET><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br>> <br>> No problem....measure the space you DO have from roof to garage door, and mount it at that <br>> height! Simple!!!<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------- Original Message -------<br>> >From : Charles Woodside[mailto:n1muq@optonline.net]<br>> Sent : 3/20/2009 12:36:09 AM<br>> To : 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> Cc : <br>> Subject : RE: Re: [450] Mobile loop install pics<br>> <br>> <br>> Bob<br>> It won't happen anytime soon for the car, I need to <br>> get in and out of the garage with my vehicle. I do plan on ordering the stacked <br>> loops soon though. Just give me a little time. Before you know it I will be <br>> horizontal....in the good sense. Charlie N1MUQ<br>> <br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>> From: <br>> Bob <br>> To: 144.450 Mailing List <br>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:23 <br>> PM<br>> Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop install <br>> pics<br>> <br>> <br>> So......make a pair for you and YOUR honey <br>> then......<br>> <br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>> From: <br>> Charles <br>> Woodside <br>> To: 144.450 Mailing List <br>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:59 <br>> PM<br>> Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop install <br>> pics<br>> <br>> <br>> So cute His & Her Loops... I'm <br>> jealous..Charlie N1MUQ<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> 450 mailing <br>> list<br>> 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:38:25 +0000 (UTC)<br>> From: djmay@comcast.net<br>> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size<br>> of Amateur Radio Question Pools<br>> To: vinnie@vinnievision.com, "144.450 Mailing List"<br>> <450@lists.vhfwiki.com><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <1174222991.3832571237581505582.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><br>> <br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> It's interesting this just came out today, Vinnie, as I just started putting my nose to the grindstone for my general about 4 days ago.? It seems like maybe you should get it while you can, before something changes. <br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>> From: "Vinnie Grosso" <vinnie@vinnievision.com> <br>> To: 450@lists.vhfwiki.com <br>> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:39:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern <br>> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio Question Pools <br>> <br>> so this opens the door for the NCVEC to add more questions, if they like. And <br>> to open a new debate like the "code-- ?no-code" debate. All of it the wrong <br>> thing for Ham radio. ?I think the guy that proposed it, like Some folks, have a <br>> superiority complex. This is why 11 meters remains so popular. ?Also what <br>> *everyone* seems to forget, is that air waves are "public" and jump across <br>> boundaries without stopping. <br>> <br>> just my 2 cents <br>> <br>> On 20 Mar 2009 at 15:18, djmay@comcast.net wrote: <br>> <br>> > <br>> > ? ? Food for thought... <br>> > ? ? <br>> > ? ? <br>> > ? ? ----- Forwarded Message ----- <br>> > ? ? From: "ARRL Web site" <memberlist@www.arrl.org> <br>> > ? ? To: djmay@comcast.net <br>> > ? ? Cc: Subscribed ARRL Members:; <br>> > ? ? Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:32:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada <br>> > Eastern <br>> > ? ? Subject: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur <br>> > Radio <br>> > ? ? Question Pools <br>> > ? ? <br>> > ? ? SB QST @ ARL $ARLB016 <br>> > ? ? ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio <br>> > ? ? Question Pools <br>> > ? ? <br>> > ? ? ZCZC AG16 <br>> > ? ? QST de W1AW <br>> > ? ? ARRL Bulletin 16 ARLB016 <br>> > ? ? >From ARRL Headquarters <br>> > ? ? Newington CT March 20, 2009 <br>> > ? ? To all radio amateurs <br>> > ? ? <br>> > ? ? SB QST ARL ARLB016 <br>> > ? ? ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio <br>> > ? ? Question Pools <br>> > ? ? <br>> > ? ? In April 2008, Michael Mancuso, KI4NGN, of Raleigh, North <br>> > Carolina, <br>> > ? ? filed a petition with the FCC, seeking to increase the size of <br>> > the <br>> > ? ? question pools that make up the Amateur Radio licensing exams. <br>> > ? ? Mancuso sought to increase the question pool from 10 times the <br>> > ? ? number of questions on an exam to 50 times more questions. On <br>> > March <br>> > ? ? 19, 2009, the Commission notified Mancuso that it was denying <br>> > his <br>> > ? ? petition. <br>> > ? ? <br>> > ? ? In his 2008 petition, Mancuso claimed that the current question <br>> > pool <br>> > ? ? is too easy to memorize and "that there has been a significant <br>> > ? ? increase in the number of Amateur Radio operators receiving <br>> > their <br>> > ? ? licenses over at least the last decade or more who do not appear <br>> > to <br>> > ? ? possess the knowledge indicated by the class of license that <br>> > they <br>> > ? ? have received. Most discussion about this topic, both on the air <br>> > and <br>> > ? ? on Internet forums, generally refers to these widespread <br>> > ? ? observations as the 'dumbing down' of Amateur Radio. It has <br>> > been <br>> > ? ? widely assumed that the cause of this observed situation is <br>> > based <br>> > ? ? upon the subject material addressed by the license <br>> > examinations, <br>> > ? ? that the material requirements specified for the examinations <br>> > does <br>> > ? ? [sic] not meet some minimum level of knowledge expected by some <br>> > or <br>> > ? ? many in the Amateur Radio community." <br>> > ? ? <br>> > ? ? The FCC pointed out to Mancuso that ea <br>> <br>> <br>> Vincent Grosso <br>> Vontage and Cell 917-546-6661 <br>> The Best Way to Predict the Future is to Invent it <br>> Carl Mangold <br>> _______________________________________________ <br>> 450 mailing list <br>> 450@lists.vhfwiki.com <br>> http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450 <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://lists.vhfwiki.com/pipermail/450/attachments/20090320/91ff9e9e/attachment.html <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:40:31 -0400<br>> From: David McKenzie <kb1fsy@vhfwiki.com><br>> Subject: [450] Station picture<br>> To: "144.450 Mailing List" <450@lists.vhfwiki.com><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <ce64a0490903201540g61d0e57bu502e1983dfb33eac@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Evolving....<br>> <br>> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1L8VjgpkNgDLpUFVJwtPZA?authkey=Gv1sRgCPT5vcfe3b_YQg&feat=directlink<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://lists.vhfwiki.com/pipermail/450/attachments/20090320/6c66e3d2/attachment-0001.htm <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 5<br>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:16:41 +0000<br>> From: "Vinnie Grosso" <vinnie@vinnievision.com><br>> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size<br>> ofAmateur Radio Question Pools<br>> To: "144.450 Mailing List" <450@lists.vhfwiki.com><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <1598840592-1237590987-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1010327025-@bxe1244.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><br>> <br>> Content-Type: text/plain<br>> <br>> Probably nothing will change for a while. I'm actually memorizing my way to Extra -- just like the man says :). Vinnie<br>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: djmay@comcast.net<br>> <br>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:38:25 <br>> To: <vinnie@vinnievision.com>; 144.450 Mailing List<450@lists.vhfwiki.com><br>> Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of<br>> Amateur Radio Question Pools<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> 450 mailing list<br>> 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> 450 mailing list<br>> 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br>> http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450<br>> <br>> <br>> End of 450 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 34<br>> **********************************<br><br /><hr />Internet Explorer 8 – Now Available. 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