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<div>Gatekeeper, who is the keymaster?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: John Foege <john.foege@gmail.com> <br>Date: 11/03/2015 9:41 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: "144. 450 Mailing List" <450@lists.vhfwiki.com> <br>Subject: Re: [450] echolink users <br><br><p dir="ltr">I must say that all of the hard work, design, and research work was dobe by Dave, K1FSY. I merely house it here at my QTH and maintain/tweak it.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 3, 2015 7:08 PM, "George Andrews" <<a href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net">gandrews@ntplx.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bob,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I am only pickin’ on you! I tried one of the two (Echo Link or IRLP). Did not like using it as it exposed ports on the computer that I don’t want to leave open. It has been a long time ago and perhaps such security issues are no longer a concern. However, each to his own. I can see the utility for the “gatekeeper of 450”. And I do not mean anything negative by the term “gatekeeper”. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I am tinkering with DMR because part of it is RF to RF. Voice goes through an ADC prior to xmission and on receive goes through a DAC. I am getting 40 + miles range with an HT(5W)/rubber duck. None of that part happens through the net. The receiver has a noise floor of -130dBm and signals of -126 dBm can be reliably received. That won’t happen with analog signals. Once the signal arrives at the repeater, it goes over the net to as little as two repeaters (EX. Repeater in South Africa and repeater in NH) or it can go out to world wide linked repeaters. If one wanted to keep it all rf, a microwave backbone or satellites could be used as the link rather than the net.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Anyway, something new to learn and experiment with. It would be interesting to see how far one could go with two digital transceivers (simplex of course) with 150 W and a large horizontally polarized antenna and compare to analog signals.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Best wishes to the gatekeeper and to John for providing a tool for folks to use!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">George<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">N1YAE<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> 450 [mailto:<a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Busino<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 3, 2015 6:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [450] echolink users<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">You have to understand the context George. I monitor it, when in the shack, so as to better coordinate with others what is happening on the freq.<br>I do not transmit through it.<br>It is essentially nothing more than a way for someone (like you) to remotely operate John's station (on 450 simplex) on the hill to work all the locals.<br>You in NH, Noel in PA, etc. would be examples. There are other uses of course, like when Shawn called in on his cell from the plane when returning from New Orleans.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">: "George Andrews" <<a href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net" target="_blank">gandrews@ntplx.net</a>><br><b>Sent</b>: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 6:17 PM<br><b>To</b>: <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a><br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [450] echolink users</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Incredible! Bob an Echo Link user? Never thought I would see the day.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">George</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">N1YAE</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> 450 [<a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Foege<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 3, 2015 5:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> 144.450 Mailing List <<a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [450] echolink users</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ok all changes have been made. Current access list is as follows:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">ACCEPT_INCOMING=^(K1FSY|K1CTJ|W2TMA|K1MAL|W1QEX|N1UJS|NQ1X|N1UJT|N1YBA|N2DXT|KB1HCY|KB1ZVU|WA1WK|KD2CMZ|KB2NLA|KC2KAE|KC2ALQ|N2YYJ|KB1UEF|N2EDR|N3WRX|KA1CU|N1ONZ|KB1AL|WB2RXF|WB2JAY|KB1ZQT|N1GS|N1NRP|AK1CT|N1LU)$<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Chris <<a href="mailto:cralt@att.net" target="_blank">cralt@att.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Why? it's easier just to have John do all the work for me<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:39 PM, K1FSY <<a href="mailto:k1fsy@vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">k1fsy@vhfwiki.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> put your beam up and you will hear the same as the link<br>><br>>> On 11/2/2015 9:25 PM, John Foege wrote:<br>>> Everyone needs to chill<br>>><br>>> On Nov 2, 2015 8:43 PM, "Chris" <<a href="mailto:cralt@att.net" target="_blank">cralt@att.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cralt@att.net" target="_blank">cralt@att.net</a>>><br>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Did you put a pull down resister on that thing yet so I can talk?<br>>><br>>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Rich <<a href="mailto:tea4one@verizon.net" target="_blank">tea4one@verizon.net</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tea4one@verizon.net" target="_blank">tea4one@verizon.net</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Yes, John....please add Charlie and Bills friend as well. Thanks!<br>>>><br>>>> *From:* William Knapp / WA1WK <mailto:<a href="mailto:kc1wj@kc1wj.com" target="_blank">kc1wj@kc1wj.com</a>><br>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 8:27 AM<br>>>> *To:* <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>><br>>>> *Subject:* Re: [450] echolink users<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Another one to add -- Andrew<br>>>> Super nice guy. Smart, funny. Loves simplex, only uses repeaters<br>>>> when he has to.<br>>>> Has a long commute. Westport to Hartford. Christine and I talk to<br>>>> him almost daily.<br>>>><br>>>> Look him up.<br>>>> <a href="https://www.qrz.com/db/AK1CT" target="_blank">https://www.qrz.com/db/AK1CT</a><br>>>><br>>>> Bob - Check out his Cobra 148 and the Turner Super Sidekick!<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Quoting John Foege <<a href="mailto:john.foege@gmail.com" target="_blank">john.foege@gmail.com</a><br>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:john.foege@gmail.com" target="_blank">john.foege@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>>>><br>>>>> Is this a question? Am I supposed to add him or what?<br>>>>><br>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Rich <<a href="mailto:tea4one@verizon.net" target="_blank">tea4one@verizon.net</a><br>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tea4one@verizon.net" target="_blank">tea4one@verizon.net</a>>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> N1LU Charlie?<br>>>>><br>>>>> *From:* John Foege <mailto:<a href="mailto:john.foege@gmail.com" target="_blank">john.foege@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2015 10:41 PM<br>>>>> *To:* 144.450 Mailing List <mailto:<a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>><br>>>>> *Subject:* [450] echolink users<br>>>>><br>>>>> ACCEPT_INCOMING=^(K1FSY|K1CTJ|W2TMA|K1MAL|W1QEX|N1UJS|NQ1X|N1UJT|N1YBA|N2DXT|KB1HCY|KB1ZVU|WA1WK|KD2CMZ|KD2CWW|KC2KAE|KC2ALQ|N2YYJ|KB1UEF|N2EDR|N3WRX|KA1CU|N1ONZ|KB1AL)$<br>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> 450 mailing list<br>>>>> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>><br>>>>> <a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" target="_blank">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>> 450 mailing list<br>>>>> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>><br>>>>> <a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" target="_blank">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> 450 mailing list<br>>>> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>><br>>>> <a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" target="_blank">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> 450 mailing list<br>>>> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>><br>>>> <a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" target="_blank">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> 450 mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>><br>>> <a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" target="_blank">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> 450 mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" target="_blank">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> 450 mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" target="_blank">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>450 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" target="_blank">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" target="_blank">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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