<html><body><div>Wow, Wiliam you too.</div><div><br></div><div>Also a non-religion fan.</div><div><br></div><div>Interesting stuff.</div><div><br>On Nov 07, 2014, at 06:37 AM, kc1wj@kc1wj.com wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote" style="font-family:Arial;font-size:14px" data-mce-style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px;"><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people<br> <br> <br> Quoting Rich <<a href="mailto:tea4one@verizon.net" data-mce-href="mailto:tea4one@verizon.net">tea4one@verizon.net</a>>:</p><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid blue;margin-left:2px;padding-left:12px;" type="cite" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 2px; padding-left: 12px;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000" data-mce-style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Calibri'; color: #000000;"><div>Yes you may be correct George, I remember seeing that....maybe I’ll have to update the quote....although I sort of like with it just the way it is.</div><div> </div><div>And Shawn, one way of saying it is that I don’t like organized religion. I don’t like overly religious people, either. I believe it was the great Karl Marx who said “ Religion is just a crutch for the masses”...or something like that.</div><div>But you get the idea. Throw down your crutches!!!</div><div> </div><div>Rich</div><div> </div><div> </div><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline" data-mce-style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div style="FONT: 10pt tahoma" data-mce-style="font: 10pt tahoma;"><div> </div><div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5" data-mce-style="background: #f5f5f5;"><div style="font-color: black" data-mce-style="font-color: black;"><strong>From:</strong> <a title="gandrews@ntplx.net" href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net" data-mce-href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net">George Andrews</a></div><div><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:57 PM</div><div><strong>To:</strong> <a title="450@lists..vhfwiki.com" href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a></div><div><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [450] I'd just like to note...</div></div></div><div> </div></div><div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline" data-mce-style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: 'Calibri'; font-weight: normal; color: #000000; font-style: normal; display: inline;"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">There is a part of that quote that I believe is missing. It is, I think from the “Age of Reason”, not sure what page. In the original quote Paine says something like his own mind is his religion.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">George</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div style="BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in" data-mce-style="border-top: #b5c4df 1pt solid; border-right: medium none; border-bottom: medium none; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-top: 3pt; padding-left: 0in; border-left: medium none; padding-right: 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span> </strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com] <strong>On Behalf Of</strong> Shawn Zupp<br> <strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, November 06, 2014 11:46 AM<br> <strong>To:</strong> 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br> <strong>Cc:</strong> 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br> <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [450] I'd just like to note...</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Well big developments on the Connecticut. Times of great change.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Rick doesn't like religion?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><br> On Nov 06, 2014, at 08:16 AM, Rich Florio <<a href="mailto:tea4one@verizon.net" data-mce-href="mailto:tea4one@verizon.net">tea4one@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><div><blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-top: 5pt;"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Bob is so not moving, he will be here till doomsday <img id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:20e4131c-2faf-407e-8b84-813d8f6242e9@icloud.com" border="0" alt="Winking smile" width="19" height="19" data-mce-src="cid:20e4131c-2faf-407e-8b84-813d8f6242e9@icloud.com" > </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">-- "Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the Worst" "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." -Thomas Paine</span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" data-mce-style="background: whitesmoke;"><strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">From:</span> </strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;"> <a title="kc1wj@kc1wj.com" href="mailto:kc1wj@kc1wj.com" data-mce-href="mailto:kc1wj@kc1wj.com">kc1wj@kc1wj.com</a> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" data-mce-style="background: whitesmoke;"><strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">Sent:</span> </strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:46 AM</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" data-mce-style="background: whitesmoke;"><strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">To:</span> </strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;"> <a title="450@lists.vhfwiki.com" href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" data-mce-style="background: whitesmoke;"><strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">Subject:</span> </strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">Re: [450] I'd just like to note...</span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div></div><div><p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">I'm not moving -- Bob is thinking about moving though.<br> <br> Quoting Shawn Zupp <<a href="mailto:shawnallan@me.com" data-mce-href="mailto:shawnallan@me.com">shawnallan@me.com</a>>:</span></p><blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 9pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5pt; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 5pt; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-bottom: medium none; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-top: 0in; padding-left: 9pt; margin-left: 1.5pt; border-left: blue 1.5pt solid; margin-top: 5pt; padding-right: 0in;"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">William, you're moving?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">What are you going to do about your job?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">On Nov 05, 2014, at 05:01 PM, <a href="mailto:kc1wj@kc1wj.com" data-mce-href="mailto:kc1wj@kc1wj.com">kc1wj@kc1wj.com</a> wrote:<br> </span></p></div><div><blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-top: 5pt;"><div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">OOPS!<br> Bob can't go there.</span></p><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">You might be able to work him on 6 though. Eskip on 6 down to that area is fairly common. I've also worked down there on 2M Tropo -- but i's rare.<br> <br> <br> Quoting John Foege <<a href="mailto:john.foege@gmail.com" data-mce-href="mailto:john.foege@gmail.com">john.foege@gmail.com</a>>:</span></p><blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 9pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5pt; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 5pt; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-bottom: medium none; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-top: 0in; padding-left: 9pt; margin-left: 1.5pt; border-left: blue 1.5pt solid; margin-top: 5pt; padding-right: 0in;"><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">Guess we'll have to go to 20 and 40m to work you then Bob...</span></p><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">:-(</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">On Nov 5, 2014 7:26 PM, "Bob" <<a href="mailto:n1ujs@toast.net" data-mce-href="mailto:n1ujs@toast.net">n1ujs@toast.net</a>> wrote:</span> <br> </p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">George,<br> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">Just one of the possibilities. Here I have a substantial job, a paid for home with antennas in place, friends, family, etc.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">There (provided I sell this home), I could BUY a home (8 times LESS in real estate tax), and dump $250k extra into my bank account, get a job for the same pay doing the same thing, and solve the distance thing with my girl while still allowing her to wander around with a .45 strapped on her hip to protect me in the event of a zombie apocalypse...<br> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">Could go either way. If TN, it would be in the hills North of Chattanooga.<br> <br> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, George Andrews <<a href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net" data-mce-href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net">gandrews@ntplx.net</a>> wrote:</span> <br> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Bob,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Did not know you were planning on going south! Tennessee is a great place. Was in the Oak Ridge area a few times. The state was on my short list of places to retire. Some real fine shine available down there, better than some of the best commercial stuff! Some real fine southern ladies as well, but you already got that covered based on your e-mail.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">George</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">From:</span> </strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;"> <a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>] <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">On Behalf Of</span> </strong> Bob<br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">Sent:</span> </strong> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:03 PM<br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">To:</span> </strong> 450<br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">Subject:</span> </strong> Re: [450] I'd just like to note...</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">Not me.<br> My signal isn't affected, I can still get prime rib and clams at Whitlock's, my chick still digs me, and no one will ever take all the guns in Tennessee.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">I'm just fine.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Shawn Zupp <<a href="mailto:n2dxtour@gmail.com" data-mce-href="mailto:n2dxtour@gmail.com">n2dxtour@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">Everyone seems angry.<br> <br> Sent from my iPhone</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><br> <span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:08 PM, <a href="mailto:kc1wj@kc1wj.com" data-mce-href="mailto:kc1wj@kc1wj.com">kc1wj@kc1wj.com</a> wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-top: 5pt;"><div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">99% of politics sucks - as do most polititians -- It doesn't even matter what party they are affliated with, Big business runs big government. Period.<br> <br> Quoting George Andrews <<a href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net" data-mce-href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net">gandrews@ntplx.net</a>>:</span></p><blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 9pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5pt; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 5pt; border-top: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-bottom: medium none; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-top: 0in; padding-left: 9pt; margin-left: 1.5pt; border-left: blue 1.5pt solid; margin-top: 5pt; padding-right: 0in;"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">John,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">I realized that after I clicked send, did apologize for the error.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">George</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">From:</span> </strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;"> <a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>] <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">On Behalf Of</span> </strong> John Foege<br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">Sent:</span> </strong> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:13 AM<br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">To:</span> </strong> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">Subject:</span> </strong> Re: [450] I'd just like to note...</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">I didnt comment on NH. That was Dave...</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">On Nov 5, 2014 11:00 AM, "George Andrews" <<a href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net" data-mce-href="mailto:gandrews@ntplx.net">gandrews@ntplx.net</a>> wrote:</span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">John,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">You might be right. A lot of what is wrong in NH is the spread of the cancer affecting MA. There is hope however in that there are a couple of strong candidates in Andrew Hemingway (ran for gov.) and Marilinda Garcia. I have had e-mail exchanges and in person dialog with our State Senator, Jeannie Forrester, who is a good candidate. She is very pro-gun and a strong proponent of local autonomy. I also met with our executive councilor (elected advisor to state government) who is also pro-gun and local autonomy. There are some good people in politics up here that are sufficient cause for hope for the future. I also talk to folks in their late teens to late twenties who have a good, strong knowledge of history and love liberty and will carry on after I have passed on. I recently spoke with some juniors at Norwich University (also National Guard members) who asked how so many Americans have become so afraid of guns.. I did my best to try and explain how. They did seem to feel anti-gun sentiment was not logical. Another reason to hope for a good future!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Although population centers (big cities) control election outcomes, the influence in day to day politics is not the same.. Local towns often operate as the locals wish. It is not uncommon to hear “…Concord may require this, but we are going to do it our way.” Many local towns are passing RBO’s (rights based ordinances) that are in conflict with State Law. So far, the State has not taken legal action against any community and no community has yet challenged the State. I don’t think the State wants to light any fires with respect to the RBO’s for reasons that would require far too much explanation here. At least I can step out in my backyard and get some target practice (I won’t use the 308, 30-06 or other hi power rifle calibers).</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">However, if things don’t change, it maybe CT/MA/CA/NY everywhere in ten years or less.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">George</span></p><div><div style="BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in" data-mce-style="border-top: #b5c4df 1pt solid; border-right: medium none; border-bottom: medium none; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-top: 3pt; padding-left: 0in; border-left: medium none; padding-right: 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;">From:</span> </strong> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; color: black;"> <a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>] <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">On Behalf Of</span> </strong> K1FSY<br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">Sent:</span> </strong> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:02 AM<br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">To:</span> </strong> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <br> <strong> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">Subject:</span> </strong> Re: [450] I'd just like to note...</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">New Hampshire has maybe 5-10 years left before it's a shithole like CT and MA.<br> <br> Maybe i'll move to tennessee with Bob.</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">On 11/5/2014 9:39 AM, George Andrews wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-top: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">John,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" data-mce-style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d" data-mce-style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Don’t step down from the soapbox. What we need for the next two years is reasoned, rational and respectful discourse. Drop the name calling and demonizing of those who disagree with us. Name calling and demonization do little to further real dialog.. One does not have to have an academic degree to be capable of rational, respectful dialog either..</span></p></blockquote></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><br> <span style="COLOR: black" data-mce-style="color: black;">_______________________________________________<br> 450 mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com" data-mce-href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> <br> <a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450" data-mce-href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a> </span></p></div></div></blockquote><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; 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