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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My apologies! Response should have been directed to K1FSY, not John.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>George<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> 450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>K1FSY<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [450] I'd just like to note...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>New Hampshire has maybe 5-10 years left before it's a shithole like CT and MA. <br><br>Maybe i'll move to tennessee with Bob.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/5/2014 9:39 AM, George Andrews wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Don’t step down from the soapbox. What we need for the next two years is reasoned, rational and respectful discourse. Drop the name calling and demonizing of those who disagree with us. Name calling and demonization do little to further real dialog. One does not have to have an academic degree to be capable of rational, respectful dialog either. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think it of interest to go back to sixteenth century thinkers. I would suggest a read of “The Politics of Obedience The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude”, Etienne De La Boetie. It is less than thirty pages and one can find an English translation easily. I believe it can be found on line for free as it is long out of print. It does explain why politics in America today works the way it does. A good follow up would be to at least skim Machiavelli’s “The Prince”. To put an “American” perspective on things, read some of the writings of Thomas Paine. For a European view on America see de Tocqueville’s “Democracy in America”. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Something to think about…is our hobby a right or a privilege? How easily could our hobby be restricted/eliminated by government? During WWII, Italians and Germans had radios (even receivers) confiscated. If you think this could not happen today, what do you think of the IRS today? Is it a totally benign Federal Agency or a political tool?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>George</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com">450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a> [<a href="mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com">mailto:450-bounces@lists.vhfwiki.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Foege<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> 144.450 Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [450] I'd just like to note...</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>And yet again politics fails us....<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Geographically...most of the state wanted Mr. Foley....but thanks to Hartford, Bridgeport, and New Haven (Big surprise) the dems win yet again....<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>450 mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:450@lists.vhfwiki.com">450@lists.vhfwiki.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450">http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>