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<div><x-tab> </x-tab>Food
for thought, thanks... This<i> is</i> a very dusty environment. We had
it apart & gave everything a good "D&C" but, stopped
at the board, & that brought the HD back to reality. Components
inside are laptop sized just stacked. The CPU & board(s) appear to
be at the bottom. Other hands were inside it & I missed some of
the action. A replacement CD/DVD ROM burner was on order via eBay but,
that deal went sour & money is, well, elusive at the moment.
However, next round I'll take a closer look at the heat sink if I
can.</div>
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<div>At 9:49 PM -0400 6/27/10, George Andrews wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1">Had
experience servicing a couple of lap tops, samething could have
similar effect on desktop (much less likely). Lap tops take in
considerable amounts of dust overtime. This inhibits effective heat
transfer. This results in bizarre laptop performance bcause of
overheating of the cpu. Disassembling the lap top and cleaning the
heat sink and cpu of baked thermal paste with some good silver paste
helps. I have not performed measurements, but I think the heat sink
and possibly retention clips warp. The heat sink no longer makes
effective contact. That means lapping the heat sink and perhaps the
cpu (if you dare). I got such a laptop working by adding software that
controls the fans and slows the cpu down. Better than tossing the
laptop as long as you can handle 20 to 25% speed reduction. The heat
build up also likely damages the board and other components. This is
the result of poor design of the lap top. Also lap tops are not really
designed to be a lap top. Some have fan ports that become completely
blocked when placed on your lap.</font></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial"
size="-1">George</font></blockquote>
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</x-tab>No sir, desktop but, it's dimensions are such that the
"Chill Mat" is actually a little large under it & it
still blows away my old tower.</blockquote>
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<blockquote>At 1:07 PM -0400 6/27/10, George Andrews wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1">Are you
speaking of a lap top?</font><br>
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</x-tab>'Mornin'!<br>
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</x-tab>Thanks. I replaced two suspect externals (USB hub & modem)
& added a "Chill Mat" w/ 2 fans but, it's still
"spooky." Too many variables. Heat & humidity don't seem
to help. CD/DVD ROM burner needs replaced & may be effecting other
components. There's some evidence of possible "power back-flow"
from external devices. Then again maybe software conflicts or maybe
"cascades" of 2 or more issues... Nonetheless, as it is, it
is...<br>
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</x-tab>aka:</b></i></font><br>
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<blockquote>At 9:46 AM -0500 6/27/10, Bob wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Good morning Bubba.....glad to see you up
and running again....<br>
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<br>
[shudder] "Dueling Banjos" and "Can you<br>
squeal like a pig" just seem a little too real to<br>
joke about much 'round here...<br>
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At 7:09 AM -0400 6/27/10, George Andrews wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>¤<br>
Saw "Deliverance" a while ago. As I recall it was a movie
about city boys goin' to the country with a take a knife to a gunfight
theme.<br>
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Bob, how about "Deliverance" and
"squealing like a pig?"<br>
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For me, any reference to pigs at all always conjures up some amusing
banter<br>
from "Pulp Fiction"......<br>
<br>
<br>
Vincent: Want some bacon?<br>
Jules: No, man. I don't eat pork.<br>
Vincent: Are you Jewish?<br>
Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's
all.<br>
Vincent: Why not?<br>
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.<br>
Vincent: Yeah, but bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste
good.<br>
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never
know<br>
'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and root in
shit.<br>
That's a filthy animal. I ain't eatin' nothing that ain't got sense
enough<br>
to disregard its own feces.<br>
Vincent: How about a dog? Dog eats its own feces.<br>
Jules: I don't eat dog either.<br>
Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy
animal?<br>
Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, but
they're<br>
definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a
long way.<br>
Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better
personality, he<br>
would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?<br>
Jules: Well, we'd have to be talkin' about one charming
motherfucking pig.<br>
I mean, he'd have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold on
Green<br>
Acres, you know what I'm saying?<br>
Vincent: [laughing] That's good.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite> Good point. Pigs in particular
emanate a very "wrong" aroma. There's a pig<br>
farm not far enough away from here & pig manure is also one
of the more<br>
"popular" fertilizers liberally used in the fields of
these parts, as well<br>
as chicken & bovine varieties. (This "country air"
can truly make one<br>
appreciate your dense northeast woods...)<br>
<br>
But then, this is all "off-subject" as well so, I'll
be conservative in<br>
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