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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Had experience servicing a couple of lap tops,
samething could have similar effect on desktop (much less likely). Lap tops take
in considerable amounts of dust overtime. This inhibits effective heat transfer.
This results in bizarre laptop performance bcause of overheating of the cpu.
Disassembling the lap top and cleaning the heat sink and cpu of baked thermal
paste with some good silver paste helps. I have not performed measurements, but
I think the heat sink and possibly retention clips warp. The heat sink no longer
makes effective contact. That means lapping the heat sink and perhaps the cpu
(if you dare). I got such a laptop working by adding software that controls the
fans and slows the cpu down. Better than tossing the laptop as long as you can
handle 20 to 25% speed reduction. The heat build up also likely damages the
board and other components. This is the result of poor design of the lap top.
Also lap tops are not really designed to be a lap top. Some have fan ports that
become completely blocked when placed on your lap.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>George</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:24 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><X-TAB> </X-TAB>No sir, desktop
but, it's dimensions are such that the "Chill Mat" is actually a little large
under it & it still blows away my old tower.</DIV>
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<DIV>At 1:07 PM -0400 6/27/10, George Andrews wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>Are you speaking of
a lap top?</FONT><BR>
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</X-TAB>Thanks. I replaced two suspect externals (USB hub & modem)
& added a "Chill Mat" w/ 2 fans but, it's still "spooky." Too many
variables. Heat & humidity don't seem to help. CD/DVD ROM burner needs
replaced & may be effecting other components. There's some evidence of
possible "power back-flow" from external devices. Then again maybe
software conflicts or maybe "cascades" of 2 or more issues... Nonetheless,
as it is, it is...</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>At 9:46 AM -0500 6/27/10, Bob wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">Good morning Bubba.....glad to see you
up and running again....<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From:
<wolfwerx@toast.net><BR>To: "144.450 Mailing List"
<450@lists.vhfwiki.com><BR>Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:51
AM<BR>Subject: Re: [450] Speaking of freedom....<BR><BR><BR>[shudder]
"Dueling Banjos" and "Can you<BR>squeal like a pig" just seem a little
too real to<BR>joke about much 'round here...<BR><BR>At 7:09 AM -0400
6/27/10, George Andrews wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">¤<BR>Saw "Deliverance" a while ago. As
I recall it was a movie about city boys goin' to the country with a
take a knife to a gunfight theme.<BR><BR>----- Original Message
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Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:23 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [450] Speaking of
freedom....<BR><BR>Bob, how about "Deliverance" and
"squealing like a pig?"<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
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Eastern<BR>Subject: Re: [450] Speaking of freedom....<BR><BR>For me,
any reference to pigs at all always conjures up some amusing
banter<BR>from "Pulp Fiction"......<BR><BR><BR> Vincent: Want
some bacon?<BR> Jules: No, man. I don't eat pork.<BR>
Vincent: Are you Jewish?<BR> Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just
don't dig on swine, that's all.<BR> Vincent: Why not?<BR>
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.<BR>
Vincent: Yeah, but bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good.<BR>
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never
know<BR>'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and
root in shit.<BR>That's a filthy animal. I ain't eatin' nothing that
ain't got sense enough<BR>to disregard its own feces.<BR>
Vincent: How about a dog? Dog eats its own feces.<BR> Jules: I
don't eat dog either.<BR> Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a
dog to be a filthy animal?<BR> Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to
call a dog filthy, but they're<BR>definitely dirty. But, a dog's got
personality. Personality goes a long way.<BR> Vincent: Ah, so by
that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he<BR>would cease
to be a filthy animal. Is that true?<BR> Jules: Well, we'd have
to be talkin' about one charming motherfucking pig.<BR>I mean, he'd
have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green<BR>Acres,
you know what I'm saying?<BR> Vincent: [laughing] That's
good.<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From:
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> Good point. Pigs in particular
emanate a very "wrong" aroma. There's a pig<BR> farm not far
enough away from here & pig manure is also one of the
more<BR> "popular" fertilizers liberally used in the fields of
these parts, as well<BR> as chicken & bovine varieties.
(This "country air" can truly make one<BR> appreciate your
dense northeast woods...)<BR><BR> But then, this is all
"off-subject" as well so, I'll be conservative in</BLOCKQUOTE>
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striving, and tolerant of the weak and the wrong. Sometime in life you will
have been all of these."</B></FONT></DIV>
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