Upon further research, it appears that in order to stay within the "20C" limits, I would have to have a battery network between 500 and 1000 Ah, which would be considerably more expensive. Apparently the rule of thumb is at least one Ah per watt, two to be safe.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:07 PM, David McKenzie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kb1fsy@vhfwiki.com">kb1fsy@vhfwiki.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Vinnie,<br><br>From what I understand, the gel cells are functionally the same to deep cycle batteries except that they are sealed, exhaust no vapors while charging (deep cycle puts out some sort of toxic gasses i think) and cost a bit more. It is good news that a lot of hams are using batteries to power their stuff, that means there is a wealth of information out there, assuming I can find it. A 70Ah gel cell battery appears to be about a little less than half the price of a 70 amp ICS supply. Looks like you are saying that I need a float charger from the linear to the battery and then a voltage regulator between the battery and the equipment. Sounds reasonable, I'll look more into it.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Vinnie Grosso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vinnie@vinnievision.com" target="_blank">vinnie@vinnievision.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
David,<br>
<br>
I think the better answer could be use a 70 Amp deep cycle battery. I believe<br>
you need to have at last 2X times the reserve in the battery, or you will get<br>
reverse EMF back to the radio. You will also need to build a zener based<br>
regulator to make sure nothing ever gets over voltage. Good news is that<br>
many hams do this, and the Green movement now has much data on home<br>
controllers that will have some info as well.<br>
<br>
Dam good idea -- even though you do not think you will need it to power the<br>
radios -- you will at some point.<br>
<br>
Also I was running my 746Pro on car batteries, and the noise floor almost<br>
diappeared -- it's amazing how good 80M and 20M got with the lower noise<br>
floor.<br>
<br>
Vinnie<br>
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On 23 Mar 2009 at 11:28, David McKenzie wrote:<br>
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><br>
> Instead of buying a 70 amp supply or a second 50 amp supply to<br>
> parallel, I am considering picking up a large gel cell battery and<br>
> fast/float charger to run the amp all the time and the radios during a<br>
> power outage. I don't know very much about batteries. Here's what I do<br>
> know:<br>
><br>
> Rated in ampere-hour, which pretty much means how many amps can be<br>
> drawn until dead over a specific time (20 hours supposedly is<br>
> standard). Charging rate should always be 10% or less of Ah rating.<br>
> Float chargers exist relatively cheaply that allow the battery to be<br>
> connected to a constant voltage supply (existing astron supply)<br>
> indefinitely.<br>
><br>
> My questions are really as follows:<br>
><br>
> What size battery would I need to "buffer" a 60-70 amp low duty cycle<br>
> load to power the amplifier? I'd assume the amp would connect to the<br>
> battery directly and then the battery to a charging circuit with<br>
> protections for when AC is removed from the CVS.<br>
><br>
> Since my goal is not long term battery backup but to run high current<br>
> devices for short periods, would a smaller battery on a constant<br>
> supply be the best bet? Do you need to match the Ah rating to the<br>
> instantaneous maximum current draw?<br>
><br>
> Is this just a dumb idea, and I should buy more power supplies?<br>
><br>
> -Dave<br>
><br>
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