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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>That would be cool....</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=proaudio5@hotmail.com href="mailto:proaudio5@hotmail.com">Alan
Fletcher</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=450@lists.vhfwiki.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:54
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [450] 450 Digest, Vol 2,
Issue 36</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I also wanted to add that I heard from Al, KB1QEX last night
and he says he will be attending too. Not sure if he was planning on the pub
& grub thing, although he did mention it, because I lost signal from the
444.500 Woodbridge repeater on my way back from Orange.<BR><BR>> From: <A
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Subject: 450 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 36<BR>> To: 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<BR>>
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<BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:38:28 -0500<BR>>
From: "Bob" <N1UJS@toast.net><BR>> Subject: [450] Post Southington
Hamfest Activity Sunday the 22nd<BR>> To: "Bob"
<N1UJS@toast.net><BR>> Message-ID:
<001c01c9aa65$09f41620$0a00a8c0@weedsmachine><BR>> Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> Hi all,<BR>> <BR>> The
"450 Group", dedicated to the promotion of simplex activity on two meters and
beyond, wishes to extend an invitation to the "580 simplex group", the "SPARC
simplex net group", and all other operators interested, to join us "post
'fest" (say between 11:00 and 12:00 and beyond) for an informal "meet &
greet" at "Sam The Clam Pub & Grub" 1303 Meriden Waterbury Tpke,
Plantsville, CT (exit 3 off 691 or just due south of the 'fest on route 10) to
hang out, enjoy some beer, grub, antenna discussion, or just to "put a face to
the name and call" !<BR>> <BR>> Already known to be attending are:
<BR>> <BR>> N1UJS Bob, KB1MPV Leslie, and son Nick<BR>> KB1FSY Dave
& Kim<BR>> KB1DTD Woody<BR>> N1UJU Alan<BR>> N1OGC Tom<BR>>
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2<BR>> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:44:44 -0400<BR>> From: Alan Fletcher
<proaudio5@hotmail.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [450] 450 Digest, Vol 2,
Issue 34<BR>> To: 450 List <450@lists.vhfwiki.com><BR>>
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When are you guys going to head to Pub&Grub? I'm bringing the YL and she
doesn't really wanna hang out at the 'fest all day. I'm figuring we'll do
about an hour or maybe a little more and then head to Sam's with the crew.
Anybody got an HT so I can find y'all once we get there?<BR>> <BR>> de
N1UJU<BR>> <BR>> > From: 450-request@lists.vhfwiki.com<BR>> >
Subject: 450 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 34<BR>> > To:
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<BR>> > <BR>> > Today's Topics:<BR>> > <BR>> > 1. Re:
Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of<BR>> > Amateur
Radio Question Pools (Vinnie Grosso)<BR>> > 2. Re: Mobile loop install
pics (n1ujs@toast.net)<BR>> > 3. Re: Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to
Increase Size of<BR>> > Amateur Radio Question Pools
(djmay@comcast.net)<BR>> > 4. Station picture (David McKenzie)<BR>>
> 5. Re: Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size<BR>> >
ofAmateur Radio Question Pools (Vinnie Grosso)<BR>> > <BR>> >
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> <BR>> > Message: 1<BR>> > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:39:23
-0400<BR>> > From: "Vinnie Grosso"
<vinnie@vinnievision.com><BR>> > Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016
FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size<BR>> > of Amateur Radio Question
Pools<BR>> > To: 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<BR>> > Message-ID:
<49C3D4CB.397.169664F@vinnie.vinnievision.com><BR>> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII<BR>> > <BR>> > so this
opens the door for the NCVEC to add more questions, if they like. And <BR>>
> to open a new debate like the "code-- no-code" debate. All of it the
wrong <BR>> > thing for Ham radio. I think the guy that proposed it,
like Some folks, have a <BR>> > superiority complex. This is why 11
meters remains so popular. Also what <BR>> > *everyone* seems to forget,
is that air waves are "public" and jump across <BR>> > boundaries
without stopping.<BR>> > <BR>> > just my 2 cents<BR>> >
<BR>> > On 20 Mar 2009 at 15:18, djmay@comcast.net wrote:<BR>> >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Food for thought...<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > ----- Forwarded Message -----<BR>>
> > From: "ARRL Web site" <memberlist@www.arrl.org><BR>> >
> To: djmay@comcast.net<BR>> > > Cc: Subscribed ARRL
Members:;<BR>> > > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:32:33 AM GMT -05:00
US/Canada<BR>> > > Eastern<BR>> > > Subject: ARLB016 FCC
Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur<BR>> > > Radio <BR>>
> > Question Pools<BR>> > > <BR>> > > SB QST @ ARL
$ARLB016<BR>> > > ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of
Amateur Radio<BR>> > > Question Pools<BR>> > > <BR>> >
> ZCZC AG16<BR>> > > QST de W1AW <BR>> > > ARRL Bulletin
16 ARLB016<BR>> > > From ARRL Headquarters <BR>> > >
Newington CT March 20, 2009<BR>> > > To all radio amateurs <BR>>
> > <BR>> > > SB QST ARL ARLB016<BR>> > > ARLB016 FCC
Denies Petition to Increase Size of Amateur Radio<BR>> > > Question
Pools<BR>> > > <BR>> > > In April 2008, Michael Mancuso,
KI4NGN, of Raleigh, North<BR>> > > Carolina,<BR>> > > filed
a petition with the FCC, seeking to increase the size of<BR>> > >
the<BR>> > > question pools that make up the Amateur Radio licensing
exams.<BR>> > > Mancuso sought to increase the question pool from 10
times the<BR>> > > number of questions on an exam to 50 times more
questions. On<BR>> > > March<BR>> > > 19, 2009, the
Commission notified Mancuso that it was denying<BR>> > > his<BR>>
> > petition.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > In his 2008 petition,
Mancuso claimed that the current question<BR>> > > pool<BR>> >
> is too easy to memorize and "that there has been a significant<BR>>
> > increase in the number of Amateur Radio operators receiving<BR>>
> > their<BR>> > > licenses over at least the last decade or
more who do not appear<BR>> > > to<BR>> > > possess the
knowledge indicated by the class of license that<BR>> > >
they<BR>> > > have received. Most discussion about this topic, both
on the air<BR>> > > and<BR>> > > on Internet forums,
generally refers to these widespread<BR>> > > observations as the
'dumbing down' of Amateur Radio. It has<BR>> > > been<BR>> >
> widely assumed that the cause of this observed situation is<BR>> >
> based<BR>> > > upon the subject material addressed by the
license<BR>> > > examinations,<BR>> > > that the material
requirements specified for the examinations<BR>> > > does<BR>>
> > [sic] not meet some minimum level of knowledge expected by
some<BR>> > > or<BR>> > > many in the Amateur Radio
community."<BR>> > > <BR>> > > The FCC pointed out to
Mancuso that ea<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Vincent
Grosso<BR>> > Vontage and Cell 917-546-6661<BR>> > The Best Way to
Predict the Future is to Invent it<BR>> > Carl Mangold<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > ------------------------------<BR>> >
<BR>> > Message: 2<BR>> > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:26:19
-0400<BR>> > From: "n1ujs@toast.net" <n1ujs@toast.net><BR>>
> Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop install pics<BR>> > To:
450@lists.vhfwiki.com<BR>> > Message-ID:
<dbfcb75fdc8545e0a947427eec122178.N1UJS@TOAST.NET><BR>> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<BR>> > <BR>> > No
problem....measure the space you DO have from roof to garage door, and mount
it at that <BR>> > height! Simple!!!<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > ------- Original Message -------<BR>> > >From :
Charles Woodside[mailto:n1muq@optonline.net]<BR>> > Sent : 3/20/2009
12:36:09 AM<BR>> > To : 450@lists.vhfwiki.com<BR>> > Cc : <BR>>
> Subject : RE: Re: [450] Mobile loop install pics<BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > Bob<BR>> > It won't happen anytime soon for the car,
I need to <BR>> > get in and out of the garage with my vehicle. I do
plan on ordering the stacked <BR>> > loops soon though. Just give me a
little time. Before you know it I will be <BR>> > horizontal....in the
good sense. Charlie N1MUQ<BR>> > <BR>> > ----- Original Message
----- <BR>> > From: <BR>> > Bob <BR>> > To: 144.450 Mailing
List <BR>> > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:23 <BR>> >
PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop install <BR>> >
pics<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > So......make a pair for you and
YOUR honey <BR>> > then......<BR>> > <BR>> > ----- Original
Message ----- <BR>> > From: <BR>> > Charles <BR>> > Woodside
<BR>> > To: 144.450 Mailing List <BR>> > Sent: Thursday, March 19,
2009 12:59 <BR>> > PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [450] Mobile loop
install <BR>> > pics<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > So cute
His & Her Loops... I'm <BR>> > jealous..Charlie N1MUQ<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
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> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:38:25 +0000 (UTC)<BR>> > From:
djmay@comcast.net<BR>> > Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies
Petition to Increase Size<BR>> > of Amateur Radio Question Pools<BR>>
> To: vinnie@vinnievision.com, "144.450 Mailing List"<BR>> >
<450@lists.vhfwiki.com><BR>> > Message-ID:<BR>> >
<1174222991.3832571237581505582.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><BR>>
> <BR>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR>> >
<BR>> > It's interesting this just came out today, Vinnie, as I just
started putting my nose to the grindstone for my general about 4 days ago.? It
seems like maybe you should get it while you can, before something changes.
<BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "Vinnie Grosso"
<vinnie@vinnievision.com> <BR>> > To: 450@lists.vhfwiki.com
<BR>> > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:39:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern <BR>> > Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to
Increase Size of Amateur Radio Question Pools <BR>> > <BR>> > so
this opens the door for the NCVEC to add more questions, if they like. And
<BR>> > to open a new debate like the "code-- ?no-code" debate. All of
it the wrong <BR>> > thing for Ham radio. ?I think the guy that proposed
it, like Some folks, have a <BR>> > superiority complex. This is why 11
meters remains so popular. ?Also what <BR>> > *everyone* seems to
forget, is that air waves are "public" and jump across <BR>> >
boundaries without stopping. <BR>> > <BR>> > just my 2 cents
<BR>> > <BR>> > On 20 Mar 2009 at 15:18, djmay@comcast.net wrote:
<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > ? ? Food for thought...
<BR>> > > ? ? <BR>> > > ? ? <BR>> > > ? ? -----
Forwarded Message ----- <BR>> > > ? ? From: "ARRL Web site"
<memberlist@www.arrl.org> <BR>> > > ? ? To: djmay@comcast.net
<BR>> > > ? ? Cc: Subscribed ARRL Members:; <BR>> > > ? ?
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:32:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada <BR>> >
> Eastern <BR>> > > ? ? Subject: ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to
Increase Size of Amateur <BR>> > > Radio <BR>> > > ? ?
Question Pools <BR>> > > ? ? <BR>> > > ? ? SB QST @ ARL
$ARLB016 <BR>> > > ? ? ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size
of Amateur Radio <BR>> > > ? ? Question Pools <BR>> > > ? ?
<BR>> > > ? ? ZCZC AG16 <BR>> > > ? ? QST de W1AW <BR>>
> > ? ? ARRL Bulletin 16 ARLB016 <BR>> > > ? ? From ARRL
Headquarters <BR>> > > ? ? Newington CT March 20, 2009 <BR>> >
> ? ? To all radio amateurs <BR>> > > ? ? <BR>> > > ? ?
SB QST ARL ARLB016 <BR>> > > ? ? ARLB016 FCC Denies Petition to
Increase Size of Amateur Radio <BR>> > > ? ? Question Pools <BR>>
> > ? ? <BR>> > > ? ? In April 2008, Michael Mancuso, KI4NGN,
of Raleigh, North <BR>> > > Carolina, <BR>> > > ? ? filed a
petition with the FCC, seeking to increase the size of <BR>> > > the
<BR>> > > ? ? question pools that make up the Amateur Radio licensing
exams. <BR>> > > ? ? Mancuso sought to increase the question pool
from 10 times the <BR>> > > ? ? number of questions on an exam to 50
times more questions. On <BR>> > > March <BR>> > > ? ? 19,
2009, the Commission notified Mancuso that it was denying <BR>> > >
his <BR>> > > ? ? petition. <BR>> > > ? ? <BR>> > >
? ? In his 2008 petition, Mancuso claimed that the current question <BR>>
> > pool <BR>> > > ? ? is too easy to memorize and "that there
has been a significant <BR>> > > ? ? increase in the number of
Amateur Radio operators receiving <BR>> > > their <BR>> > >
? ? licenses over at least the last decade or more who do not appear <BR>>
> > to <BR>> > > ? ? possess the knowledge indicated by the
class of license that <BR>> > > they <BR>> > > ? ? have
received. Most discussion about this topic, both on the air <BR>> > >
and <BR>> > > ? ? on Internet forums, generally refers to these
widespread <BR>> > > ? ? observations as the 'dumbing down' of
Amateur Radio. It has <BR>> > > been <BR>> > > ? ? widely
assumed that the cause of this observed situation is <BR>> > > based
<BR>> > > ? ? upon the subject material addressed by the license
<BR>> > > examinations, <BR>> > > ? ? that the material
requirements specified for the examinations <BR>> > > does <BR>>
> > ? ? [sic] not meet some minimum level of knowledge expected by some
<BR>> > > or <BR>> > > ? ? many in the Amateur Radio
community." <BR>> > > ? ? <BR>> > > ? ? The FCC pointed out
to Mancuso that ea <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Vincent Grosso
<BR>> > Vontage and Cell 917-546-6661 <BR>> > The Best Way to
Predict the Future is to Invent it <BR>> > Carl Mangold <BR>> >
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<BR>> > Message: 4<BR>> > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:40:31
-0400<BR>> > From: David McKenzie <kb1fsy@vhfwiki.com><BR>>
> Subject: [450] Station picture<BR>> > To: "144.450 Mailing List"
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Evolving....<BR>> > <BR>> >
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1L8VjgpkNgDLpUFVJwtPZA?authkey=Gv1sRgCPT5vcfe3b_YQg&feat=directlink<BR>>
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<BR>> > Message: 5<BR>> > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:16:41
+0000<BR>> > From: "Vinnie Grosso"
<vinnie@vinnievision.com><BR>> > Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016
FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size<BR>> > ofAmateur Radio Question
Pools<BR>> > To: "144.450 Mailing List"
<450@lists.vhfwiki.com><BR>> > Message-ID:<BR>> >
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Probably nothing will change for a while. I'm actually memorizing my way to
Extra -- just like the man says :). Vinnie<BR>> > Sent from my Verizon
Wireless BlackBerry<BR>> > <BR>> > -----Original
Message-----<BR>> > From: djmay@comcast.net<BR>> > <BR>> >
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:38:25 <BR>> > To:
<vinnie@vinnievision.com>; 144.450 Mailing
List<450@lists.vhfwiki.com><BR>> > Subject: Re: [450] Fwd: ARLB016
FCC Denies Petition to Increase Size of<BR>> > Amateur Radio Question
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