[450] Monitoring looking north 450FM

Bob n1ujs at toast.net
Sat Jan 24 22:20:26 UTC 2015


Call us...Dave, Rich and I are there, I'm pointed at you.


On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 5:17 PM, David Garcia <wb2rxf at gmail.com> wrote:

> im on 450 now give a call if not then we'll move to 432.190
>
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 5:16 PM, David Garcia <wb2rxf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Don't quote me on this because utc still confuses me, but I thought I
>> read on arrl.net it starts at 1900utc which is 7pm, I'm having an
>> anomoly as well, pissing me off, when I turn on the amp now without the
>> preamp my noise level goes up to almost 20 over and when I switch on the
>> preamp it goes down to s8 or so with it off no noise at all.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Bob <n1ujs at toast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Damn.  It's dark now...neighbor turns something on that kills me after
>>> dak....well into the red on S-meter when pointed your way.
>>> Still, I will try.  We can try 432 as well, no noise there.
>>> Contest on though, so will have to go up band a bit.
>>> Give me a minute to point......
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 4:43 PM, David Garcia <wb2rxf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Im in yeah you can call a shack, my bedroom heh I'll go to 450 if your
>>>> around
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Bob <n1ujs at toast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you on today?  In the shack.......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 7:14 PM, David Garcia <wb2rxf at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had the cushcraft 13B2 back 15 years ago, and really enjoyed it,
>>>>>> but the M2 is really something else. After about just a year I had to take
>>>>>> down the 13B2, as the landlord thought it to be to big and a liability, his
>>>>>> words were, you can have antennas, just not so large, although the straps
>>>>>> hold to this day, and are the very ones in use with the 2m7 and 420-11-50
>>>>>> 70cm. I would've gone with the 2M9 14Foot Boom, but I didn't wanna rock the
>>>>>> boat. About the cw, its nice to use it, to home in and from what I
>>>>>> regularly see, its used for 2m weak signals to lock into someones signal. I
>>>>>> can still read about 10 wpm cw, but I wouldn't personally wouldn't use it
>>>>>> for conversation, with a straight key, there are just to many freeware apps
>>>>>> like WJST7 one can interface with a computer & keyboard these days. I'm
>>>>>> actually looking into high speed meteor scatter, which is a mode most can
>>>>>> use just about any day of the week for contacts all over the U.S on
>>>>>> 2meters, using high speed cw at 1800wpm burst. I'm still very much a novice
>>>>>> on this front, but I'm seriously gonna try it out. If you've heard this all
>>>>>> before, forgive me, I've been off the air for more than a decade so whats
>>>>>> old is new again to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:34 PM, George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think M2 makes some of the best antennae. Certainly sounds like
>>>>>>> you 2M7 is working well for you! There is other good stuff, but I don’t
>>>>>>> think you can ever go wrong with M2. I have the 9 el on 14 feet which I
>>>>>>> decided to go with and I think it works well. I want to learn CW as it is a
>>>>>>> good weak signal tool and is good to use with a lot of noise. The ear can
>>>>>>> be trained very well to get the signal out of the noise with pretty good
>>>>>>> error correction. Digital modes are good, but I like voice the most.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was using the preamp in the PA which is not as good as the ARR
>>>>>>> preamp I have. I just have to find it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to get an amp with about 400 to 600 W output, but that
>>>>>>> is competing with a full size 45 ACP perhaps with can. I have a subcompact
>>>>>>> 45 ACP for EDC, but would like to add the FS for IDPA competition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:
>>>>>>> 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] *On Behalf Of *David Garcia
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 11:31 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [450] Monitoring looking north 450FM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also don't see an issue once a beam is in place either, I
>>>>>>> understand about the mountains, I have a good friend that lives in pike
>>>>>>> county Matamoras PA that I would like it like to be able to work regularly,
>>>>>>> but he has the highpoint state park mountain blocking him from my
>>>>>>> direction, so it doesn't make much sense to put 100watts or more into a
>>>>>>> mountain. I've typically worked into virginia & northern north carolina
>>>>>>> under flat conditions on ssb, before I had the amp in line & even had a
>>>>>>> gentlemen from Kentucky send me cw under the same flat conditions and I
>>>>>>> heard it fairly well, it was an s1 but it was readable. I'm surprised this
>>>>>>> 2m7 has turned out to be such a small gem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:08 AM, George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think communication should be possible with the beam. RXF is 233
>>>>>>> miles, FSY 160 miles. I was able to go those distances on SSB. I don’t
>>>>>>> remember FM results. Bob and I communicated from his station to my mobile
>>>>>>> (with halo) well into NH. I think he was running over 400 W or more into an
>>>>>>> H frame. It is difficult getting out of this area  except for S/SW. There
>>>>>>> are mountains all around except for S/SW. I can’t reach the Mt. Washington
>>>>>>> repeater from mobile until I go about 25 miles S or N of my location.
>>>>>>> Although I am on a hill with some elevation, it is still on the side of a
>>>>>>> hill. I am on the west side of Pike Hill which I think is part of the
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HF works well however. Have not tried 1.3 M (100 W, four el) or 33
>>>>>>> cm (30 W 7 el) yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N1YAE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:
>>>>>>> 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] *On Behalf Of *K1FSY
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 10:38 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [450] Monitoring looking north 450FM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When George gets a beam up it will be doable in flat conditions I
>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/23/2015 10:29 AM, George Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [
>>>>>>> mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com <450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com>]
>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *David Garcia
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 10:22 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [450] Monitoring looking north 450FM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok np there will be better days :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM, George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I heard anything, it was at the noise floor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:
>>>>>>> 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] *On Behalf Of *George Andrews
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 9:42 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [450] Monitoring looking north 450FM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Calling you and listening now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [
>>>>>>> mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com <450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com>]
>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *David Garcia
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 9:39 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [450] Monitoring looking north 450FM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have the antenna now more NE I forget your in NH sorry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM, George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Called you several times, now listening. Thought I might have heard
>>>>>>> something right at the noise floor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N1YAE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:
>>>>>>> 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] *On Behalf Of *David Garcia
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 8:58 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [450] Monitoring looking north 450FM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a few.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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