[450] I'd just like to note...

Fri Nov 7 10:11:44 EST 2014

I would normally not comment too much on the topic of religion as I believe
to each his own. Don't try to force your religion on me and I won't try to
convince you to commit to my beliefs. However, if you ask me about my faith,
I will talk to you about it as long as the conversation remains respectful.
Other than that, let one's life offer an example (with all its
imperfection). That said, I will point out a definition of religion as one
will find in Merriam-Webster: : an interest, a belief, or an activity that
is very important to a person or group. Ok, how can any living person not be
religious or have a form religion? To be without any interests, beliefs or
activity (activities) that are important is not life! Perhaps such describes
the life of a zombie, but the activity of feeding is important to zombies J

George

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Wow, Wiliam you too.

Also a non-religion fan.

Interesting stuff.

On Nov 07, 2014, at 06:37 AM, kc1wj at kc1wj.com wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people

Quoting Rich <tea4one at verizon.net>:

Yes you may be correct George, I remember seeing that....maybe I'll have to
update the quote....although I sort of like with it just the way it is.

And Shawn, one way of saying it is that I don't like organized religion. I
don't like overly religious people, either. I believe it was the great Karl
Marx who said " Religion is just a crutch for the masses"...or something
like that.

But you get the idea. Throw down your crutches!!!

Rich

From: George Andrews <mailto:gandrews at ntplx.net> 

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:57 PM

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There is a part of that quote that I believe is missing. It is, I think from
the "Age of Reason", not sure what page. In the original quote Paine says
something like his own mind is his religion.

George

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Well big developments on the Connecticut.   Times of great change.

Rick doesn't like religion?

On Nov 06, 2014, at 08:16 AM, Rich Florio <tea4one at verizon.net> wrote:

Bob is so not moving, he will be here till doomsday Winking smile

-- "Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the
Worst" "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or
Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and
enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." -Thomas Paine

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I'm not moving -- Bob is thinking about moving though.

Quoting Shawn Zupp <shawnallan at me.com>:

William, you're moving?

What are you going to do about your job?

On Nov 05, 2014, at 05:01 PM, kc1wj at kc1wj.com wrote:

OOPS!
Bob can't go there.

You might be able to work him on 6 though. Eskip on 6 down to that area is
fairly common. I've also worked down there on 2M Tropo -- but i's rare.

Quoting John Foege <john.foege at gmail.com>:

Guess we'll have to go to 20 and 40m to work you then Bob...

:-(

On Nov 5, 2014 7:26 PM, "Bob" <n1ujs at toast.net> wrote: 

George,

Just one of the possibilities.  Here I have a substantial job, a paid for
home with antennas in place, friends, family, etc.

There (provided I sell this home), I could BUY a home (8 times LESS in real
estate tax), and dump $250k extra into my bank account, get a job for the
same pay doing the same thing, and solve the distance thing with my girl
while still allowing her to wander around with a .45 strapped on her hip to
protect me in the event of a zombie apocalypse...

Could go either way.  If TN, it would be in the hills North of Chattanooga.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net> wrote: 

Bob,

Did not know you were planning on going south! Tennessee is a great place.
Was in the Oak Ridge area a few times. The state was on my short list of
places to retire. Some real fine shine available down there, better than
some of the best commercial stuff! Some real fine southern ladies as well,
but you already got that covered based on your e-mail.

George

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Not me.
My signal isn't affected, I can still get prime rib and clams at Whitlock's,
my chick still digs me, and no one will ever take all the guns in Tennessee.

I'm just fine.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Shawn Zupp <n2dxtour at gmail.com> wrote:

Everyone seems angry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:08 PM, kc1wj at kc1wj.com wrote:

99% of politics sucks - as do most polititians -- It doesn't even matter
what party they are affliated with, Big business runs big government.
Period.

Quoting George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net>:

John,

I realized that after I clicked send, did apologize for the error.

George

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I didnt comment on NH. That was Dave...

On Nov 5, 2014 11:00 AM, "George Andrews" <gandrews at ntplx.net> wrote:

John,

You might be right. A lot of what is wrong in NH is the spread of the cancer
affecting MA. There is hope however in that there are a couple of strong
candidates in Andrew Hemingway (ran for gov.) and Marilinda Garcia. I have
had e-mail exchanges and in person dialog with our State Senator, Jeannie
Forrester, who is a good candidate. She is very pro-gun and a strong
proponent of local autonomy. I also met with our executive councilor
(elected advisor to state government) who is also pro-gun and local
autonomy. There are some good people in politics up here that are sufficient
cause for hope for the future. I also talk to folks in their late teens to
late twenties who have a good, strong knowledge of history and love liberty
and will carry on after I have passed on. I recently spoke with some juniors
at Norwich University (also National Guard members)  who asked how so many
Americans have become so afraid of guns.. I did my best to try and explain
how. They did seem to feel anti-gun sentiment was not logical. Another
reason to hope for a good future!

Although population centers (big cities) control election outcomes, the
influence in day to day politics is not the same.. Local towns often operate
as the locals wish. It is not uncommon to hear ".Concord may require this,
but we are going to do it our way." Many local towns are passing RBO's
(rights based ordinances) that are in conflict with State Law. So far, the
State has not taken legal action against any community and no community has
yet challenged the State. I don't think the State wants to light any fires
with respect to the RBO's for reasons that would require far too much
explanation here. At least I can step out in my backyard and get some target
practice (I won't use the 308, 30-06 or other hi power rifle calibers).

However, if things don't change, it maybe CT/MA/CA/NY everywhere in ten
years or less.

George

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New Hampshire has maybe 5-10 years left before it's a shithole like CT and
MA.

Maybe i'll move to tennessee with Bob.

On 11/5/2014 9:39 AM, George Andrews wrote:

John,

Don't step down from the soapbox. What we need for the next two years is
reasoned, rational and respectful discourse. Drop the name calling and
demonizing of those who disagree with us. Name calling and demonization do
little to further real dialog.. One does not have to have an academic degree
to be capable of rational, respectful dialog either..

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