[450] I'd just like to note...
kc1wj at kc1wj.com
kc1wj at kc1wj.com
Fri Nov 7 09:37:07 EST 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people
Quoting Rich <tea4one at verizon.net>:
> Yes you may be correct George, I remember seeing that....maybe I’ll
have
> to update the quote....although I sort of like with it just the way it
> is.
>
> And Shawn, one way of saying it is that I don’t like organized
> religion. I don’t like overly religious people, either. I believe it
was
> the great Karl Marx who said “ Religion is just a crutch for the
> masses”...or something like that.
> But you get the idea. Throw down your crutches!!!
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> FROM: George Andrews[1]
> SENT: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:57 PM
> TO: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
> SUBJECT: Re: [450] I'd just like to note...
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>
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>
> There is a part of that quote that I believe is missing. It is, I
> think from the “Age of Reason”, not sure what page. In the original
> quote Paine says something like his own mind is his religion.
>
>
>
> George
>
>
>
> FROM: 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com
> [mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] ON BEHALF OF Shawn Zupp
> SENT: Thursday, November 06, 2014 11:46 AM
> TO: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
> CC: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
> SUBJECT: Re: [450] I'd just like to note...
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>
>
> Well big developments on the Connecticut. Times of great
change.
>
>
> Rick doesn't like religion?
>
>
>
> On Nov 06, 2014, at 08:16 AM, Rich Florio <tea4one at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Bob is so not moving, he will be here till doomsday
>>
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>>
>> -- "Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in
>> religion is the Worst" "All national institutions of churches, whether
>> Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human
>> inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power
>> and profit." -Thomas Paine
>>
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>> FROM: kc1wj at kc1wj.com
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>> SENT: Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:46 AM
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>> TO: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
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>>
>> SUBJECT: Re: [450] I'd just like to note...
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>> I'm not moving -- Bob is thinking about moving though.
>>
>> Quoting Shawn Zupp <shawnallan at me.com>:
>>
>>> William, you're moving?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are you going to do about your job?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 05, 2014, at 05:01 PM, kc1wj at kc1wj.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> OOPS!
>>>> Bob can't go there.
>>>>
>>>> You might be able to work him on 6 though. Eskip on 6
>>>> down to that area is fairly common. I've also worked down there on 2M
>>>> Tropo -- but i's rare.
>>>>
>>>> Quoting John Foege <john.foege at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Guess we'll have to go to 20 and 40m to work you then Bob...
>>>>>
>>>>> :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 5, 2014 7:26 PM, "Bob" <n1ujs at toast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> George,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just one of the possibilities. Here I have a
>>>>> substantial job, a paid for home with antennas in place, friends,
>>>>> family, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> There (provided I sell this home), I could BUY a
>>>>> home (8 times LESS in real estate tax), and dump $250k extra into my
>>>>> bank account, get a job for the same pay doing the same thing, and
>>>>> solve the distance thing with my girl while still allowing her to
>>>>> wander around with a .45 strapped on her hip to protect me in the
>>>>> event of a zombie apocalypse...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could go either way. If TN, it would be in the
>>>>> hills North of Chattanooga.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, George Andrews
>>>>> <gandrews at ntplx.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did not know you were planning on going south!
>>>>> Tennessee is a great place. Was in the Oak Ridge area a few times.
>>>>> The state was on my short list of places to retire. Some real fine
>>>>> shine available down there, better than some of the best commercial
>>>>> stuff! Some real fine southern ladies as well, but you already got
>>>>> that covered based on your e-mail.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FROM: 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>> [mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] ON BEHALF OF Bob
>>>>> SENT: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:03 PM
>>>>> TO: 450
>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [450] I'd just like to note...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not me.
>>>>> My signal isn't affected, I can still get prime rib and clams at
>>>>> Whitlock's, my chick still digs me, and no one will ever take all
>>>>> the guns in Tennessee.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Shawn Zupp
>>>>> <n2dxtour at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone seems angry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:08 PM, kc1wj at kc1wj.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 99% of politics sucks - as do most polititians -- It doesn't even
>>>>>> matter what party they are affliated with, Big business runs big
>>>>>> government. Period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realized that after I clicked send,
>>>>>>> did apologize for the error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FROM: 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] ON BEHALF OF John Foege
>>>>>>> SENT: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:13 AM
>>>>>>> TO: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [450] I'd just like to note...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didnt comment on NH. That was
Dave...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 2014 11:00 AM, "George
>>>>>>> Andrews" <gandrews at ntplx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might be right. A lot of what
>>>>>>> is wrong in NH is the spread of the cancer affecting MA. There is
>>>>>>> hope however in that there are a couple of strong candidates in
>>>>>>> Andrew Hemingway (ran for gov.) and Marilinda Garcia. I have had
>>>>>>> e-mail exchanges and in person dialog with our State Senator,
>>>>>>> Jeannie Forrester, who is a good candidate. She is very pro-gun
>>>>>>> and a strong proponent of local autonomy. I also met with our
>>>>>>> executive councilor (elected advisor to state government) who is
>>>>>>> also pro-gun and local autonomy. There are some good people in
>>>>>>> politics up here that are sufficient cause for hope for the
>>>>>>> future. I also talk to folks in their late teens to late twenties
>>>>>>> who have a good, strong knowledge of history and love liberty and
>>>>>>> will carry on after I have passed on. I recently spoke with some
>>>>>>> juniors at Norwich University (also National Guard members) who
>>>>>>> asked how so many Americans have become so afraid of guns.. I did
>>>>>>> my best to try and explain how. They did seem to feel anti-gun
>>>>>>> sentiment was not logical. Another reason to hope for a good
>>>>>>> future!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although population centers (big
>>>>>>> cities) control election outcomes, the influence in day to day
>>>>>>> politics is not the same.. Local towns often operate as the locals
>>>>>>> wish. It is not uncommon to hear “…Concord may require this,
but
>>>>>>> we are going to do it our way.” Many local towns are passing
RBO’s
>>>>>>> (rights based ordinances) that are in conflict with State Law. So
>>>>>>> far, the State has not taken legal action against any community
>>>>>>> and no community has yet challenged the State. I don’t think the
>>>>>>> State wants to light any fires with respect to the RBO’s for
>>>>>>> reasons that would require far too much explanation here. At least
>>>>>>> I can step out in my backyard and get some target practice (I
>>>>>>> won’t use the 308, 30-06 or other hi power rifle calibers).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, if things don’t change,
>>>>>>> it maybe CT/MA/CA/NY everywhere in ten years or less.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FROM:
>>>>>>> 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] ON BEHALF OF K1FSY
>>>>>>> SENT: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:02 AM
>>>>>>> TO: 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com
>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [450] I'd just like to note...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New Hampshire has maybe 5-10 years
>>>>>>> left before it's a shithole like CT and MA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe i'll move to tennessee with Bob.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/5/2014 9:39 AM, George
>>>>>>> Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don’t step down from the
>>>>>>>> soapbox. What we need for the next two years is reasoned,
>>>>>>>> rational and respectful discourse. Drop the name calling and
>>>>>>>> demonizing of those who disagree with us. Name calling and
>>>>>>>> demonization do little to further real dialog.. One does not have
>>>>>>>> to have an academic degree to be capable of rational, respectful
>>>>>>>> dialog either.
>>>>>>>
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