[450] I'd just like to note...

Thu Nov 6 16:55:45 EST 2014

Yes you may be correct George, I remember seeing that....maybe I’ll have to update the quote....although I sort of like with it just the way it is.

And Shawn, one way of saying it is that I don’t like organized religion. I don’t like overly religious people, either. I believe it was the great Karl Marx who said “ Religion is just a crutch for the masses”...or something like that.
But you get the idea. Throw down your crutches!!!

Rich

From: George Andrews 
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There is a part of that quote that I believe is missing. It is, I think from the “Age of Reason”, not sure what page. In the original quote Paine says something like his own mind is his religion. 

George

From: 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Zupp
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Well big developments on the Connecticut.   Times of great change.

Rick doesn't like religion?

On Nov 06, 2014, at 08:16 AM, Rich Florio <tea4one at verizon.net> wrote:

  Bob is so not moving, he will be here till doomsday 

  -- "Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the Worst" "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." -Thomas Paine

  From: kc1wj at kc1wj.com

  Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:46 AM

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  I'm not moving -- Bob is thinking about moving though.

  Quoting Shawn Zupp <shawnallan at me.com>:

    William, you're moving?

    What are you going to do about your job?

    On Nov 05, 2014, at 05:01 PM, kc1wj at kc1wj.com wrote:

      OOPS!
      Bob can't go there.

      You might be able to work him on 6 though. Eskip on 6 down to that area is fairly common. I've also worked down there on 2M Tropo -- but i's rare.

      Quoting John Foege <john.foege at gmail.com>:

        Guess we'll have to go to 20 and 40m to work you then Bob...

        :-(

        On Nov 5, 2014 7:26 PM, "Bob" <n1ujs at toast.net> wrote:

        George,

        Just one of the possibilities.  Here I have a substantial job, a paid for home with antennas in place, friends, family, etc.

        There (provided I sell this home), I could BUY a home (8 times LESS in real estate tax), and dump $250k extra into my bank account, get a job for the same pay doing the same thing, and solve the distance thing with my girl while still allowing her to wander around with a .45 strapped on her hip to protect me in the event of a zombie apocalypse...

        Could go either way.  If TN, it would be in the hills North of Chattanooga.

        On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net> wrote:

        Bob,

        Did not know you were planning on going south! Tennessee is a great place. Was in the Oak Ridge area a few times. The state was on my short list of places to retire. Some real fine shine available down there, better than some of the best commercial stuff! Some real fine southern ladies as well, but you already got that covered based on your e-mail.

        George

        From: 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] On Behalf Of Bob
        Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:03 PM
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        Not me.
        My signal isn't affected, I can still get prime rib and clams at Whitlock's, my chick still digs me, and no one will ever take all the guns in Tennessee.

        I'm just fine.

        On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Shawn Zupp <n2dxtour at gmail.com> wrote:

        Everyone seems angry.

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:08 PM, kc1wj at kc1wj.com wrote:

          99% of politics sucks - as do most polititians -- It doesn't even matter what party they are affliated with, Big business runs big government. Period.

          Quoting George Andrews <gandrews at ntplx.net>:

            John,

            I realized that after I clicked send, did apologize for the error.

            George

            From: 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] On Behalf Of John Foege
            Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:13 AM
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            I didnt comment on NH. That was Dave...

            On Nov 5, 2014 11:00 AM, "George Andrews" <gandrews at ntplx.net> wrote:

            John,

            You might be right. A lot of what is wrong in NH is the spread of the cancer affecting MA. There is hope however in that there are a couple of strong candidates in Andrew Hemingway (ran for gov.) and Marilinda Garcia. I have had e-mail exchanges and in person dialog with our State Senator, Jeannie Forrester, who is a good candidate. She is very pro-gun and a strong proponent of local autonomy. I also met with our executive councilor (elected advisor to state government) who is also pro-gun and local autonomy. There are some good people in politics up here that are sufficient cause for hope for the future. I also talk to folks in their late teens to late twenties who have a good, strong knowledge of history and love liberty and will carry on after I have passed on. I recently spoke with some juniors at Norwich University (also National Guard members)  who asked how so many Americans have become so afraid of guns.. I did my best to try and explain how. They did seem to feel anti-gun sentiment was not logical. Another reason to hope for a good future!

            Although population centers (big cities) control election outcomes, the influence in day to day politics is not the same.. Local towns often operate as the locals wish. It is not uncommon to hear “…Concord may require this, but we are going to do it our way.” Many local towns are passing RBO’s (rights based ordinances) that are in conflict with State Law. So far, the State has not taken legal action against any community and no community has yet challenged the State. I don’t think the State wants to light any fires with respect to the RBO’s for reasons that would require far too much explanation here. At least I can step out in my backyard and get some target practice (I won’t use the 308, 30-06 or other hi power rifle calibers).

            However, if things don’t change, it maybe CT/MA/CA/NY everywhere in ten years or less.

            George

            From: 450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com [mailto:450-bounces at lists.vhfwiki.com] On Behalf Of K1FSY
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            New Hampshire has maybe 5-10 years left before it's a shithole like CT and MA.

            Maybe i'll move to tennessee with Bob.

            On 11/5/2014 9:39 AM, George Andrews wrote:

              John,

              Don’t step down from the soapbox. What we need for the next two years is reasoned, rational and respectful discourse. Drop the name calling and demonizing of those who disagree with us. Name calling and demonization do little to further real dialog.. One does not have to have an academic degree to be capable of rational, respectful dialog either.

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