Farthest contact was with W8MIL in Cadillac, Michigan. 644 miles. Granted, he's running a pair of 17b2's at 100 feet. Otherwise, he probably wouldn't have heard me. _______________________________________________ 450 mailing list 450 at lists.vhfwiki.com http://lists.vhfwiki.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/450